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		<title>Evan1975 at 21:21, 14 May 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T21:21:32Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::If you want a comprehensive list of manga-to-anime changes, I recommend [http://www.geocities.jp/hokuaniken/ Hokutosite] fansite, which has a detailed episode guide. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 21:11, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::If you want a comprehensive list of manga-to-anime changes, I recommend [http://www.geocities.jp/hokuaniken/ Hokutosite] fansite, which has a detailed episode guide. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 21:11, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::I&#039;d kind of like something like [http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Filler this] and [http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/general-anime-discussion/24458-anime-filler-guide.html this] to let newbies be aware of what filler is, why it happens, where it occurs, and what they&#039;re missing if they skip it. [[User:Evan1975|evan1975]] 21:21, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Arkhound at 21:11, 14 May 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T21:11:53Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;	&lt;/del&gt;I personally find the term &quot;filler&quot; completely misleading. It&#039;s usually used in anime fandom as an euphemism for &quot;anything that was not in the source material&quot;, but it also implies that any event depicted in an adaptation-original story arc is unimportant to the overall plot, which I disagree. In the anime version of the Shin saga, episodes 17-21 is an anime-original story arc, but its still important to the plot due to the changes made to the flow of the story in the anime adaptation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 04:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I personally find the term &quot;filler&quot; completely misleading. It&#039;s usually used in anime fandom as an euphemism for &quot;anything that was not in the source material&quot;, but it also implies that any event depicted in an adaptation-original story arc is unimportant to the overall plot, which I disagree. In the anime version of the Shin saga, episodes 17-21 is an anime-original story arc, but its still important to the plot due to the changes made to the flow of the story in the anime adaptation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 04:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:True. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;I did this partially because somebody keeps deleting all the information on anime filler from Wikipedia, so I thought I&#039;d preserve (part of) the article here. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;I also plan to flesh this out a lot more, but am waiting for the new DVD set to come out so I can rewatch the &quot;filler&quot; eps and take notes. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;(Even though I hate the Shin arc filler; the later stuff was OK.) &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;I want to specify between &quot;anime original story&quot; and clip shows, too. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;[[User:Evan1975|evan1975]] 05:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:True. I did this partially because somebody keeps deleting all the information on anime filler from Wikipedia, so I thought I&#039;d preserve (part of) the article here. I also plan to flesh this out a lot more, but am waiting for the new DVD set to come out so I can rewatch the &quot;filler&quot; eps and take notes. (Even though I hate the Shin arc filler; the later stuff was OK.) I want to specify between &quot;anime original story&quot; and clip shows, too. [[User:Evan1975|evan1975]] 05:18&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Yeah, blame that on the Manga and Anime Wikiproject. Apparently, anime-original characters in manga-based anime adaptations are not &quot;notable&quot; enough to be mentioned unless its a main character. I can understand their need to remove as much fanwankery as possible, but sometimes they take it too far. But I digress.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Regardless of the quality of the Shin filler, jumping from episode 13 to 22 leaves a lot of holes in the story, mainly like what happens to Joker and Saki and how Southern Cross got destroyed. At the very least, episodes 17-21, while completely different from the manga, are important to the anime story. Not to mention that many adapted episodes have their fair share of anime-only material as well (the Mr. Heart episode consists almost entirely of filler outside of the scenes with Mr. Heart).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::If you want a comprehensive list of manga-to-anime changes, I recommend [http://www.geocities.jp/hokuaniken/ Hokutosite] fansite, which has a detailed episode guide. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 21:11&lt;/ins&gt;, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Arkhound</name></author>
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		<title>Evan1975 at 05:18, 14 May 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T05:18:23Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;	I personally find the term &amp;quot;filler&amp;quot; completely misleading. It&amp;#039;s usually used in anime fandom as an euphemism for &amp;quot;anything that was not in the source material&amp;quot;, but it also implies that any event depicted in an adaptation-original story arc is unimportant to the overall plot, which I disagree. In the anime version of the Shin saga, episodes 17-21 is an anime-original story arc, but its still important to the plot due to the changes made to the flow of the story in the anime adaptation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 04:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;	I personally find the term &amp;quot;filler&amp;quot; completely misleading. It&amp;#039;s usually used in anime fandom as an euphemism for &amp;quot;anything that was not in the source material&amp;quot;, but it also implies that any event depicted in an adaptation-original story arc is unimportant to the overall plot, which I disagree. In the anime version of the Shin saga, episodes 17-21 is an anime-original story arc, but its still important to the plot due to the changes made to the flow of the story in the anime adaptation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 04:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:True.  I did this partially because somebody keeps deleting all the information on anime filler from Wikipedia, so I thought I&#039;d preserve (part of) the article here.  I also plan to flesh this out a lot more, but am waiting for the new DVD set to come out so I can rewatch the &quot;filler&quot; eps and take notes.  (Even though I hate the Shin arc filler; the later stuff was OK.)  I want to specify between &quot;anime original story&quot; and clip shows, too.  [[User:Evan1975|evan1975]] 05:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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	I personally find the term &amp;quot;filler&amp;quot; completely misleading. It&amp;#039;s usually used in anime fandom as an euphemism for &amp;quot;anything that was not in the source material&amp;quot;, but it also implies that any event depicted in an adaptation-original story arc is unimportant to the overall plot, which I disagree. In the anime version of the Shin saga, episodes 17-21 is an anime-original story arc, but its still important to the plot due to the changes made to the flow of the story in the anime adaptation. [[User:Arkhound|Arkhound]] 04:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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